I was in the police force for 25 years
我在警察队伍里工作了25年,
the police is full of corruption why
警察队伍里到处都是腐败,
didn't you report this this corruption
你为什么不当时就举报这种腐败现象,
at the time officers with stitched
警察
people up all the time by lying in court
总是在法庭上撒谎,陷害别人,
did you never think that this might
你有没有想过,这可能会
actually catch up with you there were
追上 你们那里有
officers that had sex with prisoners in
警官和牢房里的囚犯发生性关系
the cells I wanted to be a police
我想成为一名
officer it makes me feel sick this man
警察这让我感到恶心这个男人
Wayne cousins right that's a dangerous
韦恩堂兄对,那是一个危险的
man
男人
do you need to have a bit of ego to be a
你需要有点自负才能成为一名
police officer it's all about ego it's
警察这一切都是关于 自我,这是
an ego driven career you end up with
一个自我驱动的职业,你最终会拥有
power you you end up with the power over
权力,你最终会拥有对
people's Liberty you have dominion over
人民自由的权力,你对他们有统治权,
them what made you want to become a
是什么让你一开始想成为一名
police officer in the first place I'm a
警察,我是一个
very sort of friendly approachable
非常友好平易近人的
person you know and an attended care and
人 知道并得到照顾,
I also have done why are you wearing a
我也做了为什么你
mask today for my own protection
今天戴口罩为了我自己的安全,
whatever I say will be scrutinized it
无论我说的是什么都会被仔细审查,
will be transcribed and they will look
都会被记录下来,他们会寻找
for any [\h__\h] legal [\h__\h] in my armor to
我盔甲上的任何缝隙来抓
come and get me but the public needs to
我,但是 公众需要
know what's going on could you talk a
知道发生了什么,你能谈谈吗
little bit about when you first started
当你第一次
noticing corruption within the force
注意到警察队伍内部的腐败时,
well I didn't see corruption during my
我在最初的几个月的基础训练中没有看到腐败,当
months of initial basic training the
moment you hit the street Bank
你走上街头时,
you start seeing corruption so what
你开始看到腐败,那么
kinds of stuff did you see there was a
你看到了什么样的东西,有很多
lot of
sexual stuff
性方面的东西
that went on the women some of them had
继续说,有些女人的
a hard job sexual assaults on them was
工作很辛苦,对她们的性侵犯
was very commonplace there was a
很常见,
tradition
when when a new girl joined the police
当一个新女孩加入警察
the uniform this was that they had to
队伍时,有一个传统,那就是制服,他们必须给
station stamp her these stamps it had
她盖上这些印章,这很有
the the force that the station and the
力量
date she had to get that stamped on her
她必须在车站和日期把这个印章印在屁股上,
ass
so they get old about people pull down
这样他们就会对人们拉下
the trousers or lift up a scar Bang I'm
裤子或抬起伤疤感到厌烦。我
really shocked that it
真的很震惊,它
remains so Secret
仍然如此秘密,
because you would think any other world
因为你会认为在任何其他世界
it would be like sexual harassment claim
它都会是 比如
after one after the other yeah there
一个又一个的性骚扰指控,是的,
were opposites that were that are in
有对立面,有
relationships with prisoners there's
与囚犯有关系的
officers that have had sex with
警官,有在牢房里与囚犯发生性关系的警官,
prisoners in the cells those officers
that have gone around to victims of
有到处找
crime you know use their position to
犯罪受害者的警官,你知道,他们利用自己的职位
have sex with them it is sad because
发生性关系 他们本
they're meant to be protecting these
应保护这些
people and they're actually just abusing
人,但实际上却在虐待
them yeah a guy I joined with he was
他们,是的 我和一个家伙一起
actually running brothels there was one
经营妓院,有一个
guy who on a way to a meeting
家伙在去
a cash machine there was a woman begging
自动取款机的路上遇到了一个乞讨的女人,
and he got the money out got 20 quid out
他把钱拿出来,拿出20英镑给了
and gave it to her for a [\h__\h] that's
她,让她给她口交,这是
people using their position of trust but
人们使用的 他们的信任地位,但
I'm I'm perverse ends you know these
我是邪恶的,你知道这些
police officers work very predatory Did
警察的工作非常掠夺性,你有没有
you sort of list the types of corruption
列出
that you saw regularly there was so much
你经常看到的腐败类型,
physical violence in the force it was a
在警队里有太多的身体暴力,这是一个
war zone and someone had been assaulted
战区,有人 遭到袭击
and the officers realized that there was
,警察意识到有
CCTV it was covered the the venue was
闭路电视,它被覆盖了,场地被
covered they stuck in the microwave
覆盖了,他们把录像带放进了微波炉,
because they destroyed the content
因为他们销毁了
that's on the tape or does it go into
录像带上的内容,或者它是否会成为
evidence it'll just go back into um
证据,它只会回到嗯
CCTV controller of that venue the other
闭路电视控制器 在那个场地,
thing that you get is bearing Paul's
你得到的另一件事是保罗的
witness officers with stitch people up
证人官员
all the time by lying in court but
一直在法庭上撒谎来欺骗人们,但
you'll just be given a book an Evidence
你只会得到一本
book about that big and they'll be
关于那个大的证据书,他们会
thrown at you and you're told copy that
被扔给你,你' 重新告诉副本,
just make sure your name's different my
只要确保你的名字不同,我
dad was in the police for a long time I
爸爸在警察局待了很长时间 我
wanted to be a police officer I always
想成为一名警察,我一直
thought that they were
认为他们都是
wholly good and it makes me sad to kind
很好的,但当我
of hear some of the things that they
听到
they were doing to me that just seemed
他们对我做的一些事情时,我感到很难过,我
it just doesn't seem right to ask for
觉得向他们寻求
help is seen as weakness you become
帮助是不对的 作为弱点,你会
isolated from the rest of society very
很快与社会其他人隔绝,
very quickly
alcohol is a major problem again back
酒精再次成为一个大问题,
then it would just smell of stale
那时早上只会闻到陈旧的
alcohol in the morning years ago the
酒精味,几年前
cocaine was was a big big problem there
可卡因是一个大问题,有
was a lot of people doing cocaine one
很多人吸食可卡因
unit was on one guy was sniffing it in
单位里有一个人在柜子里吸毒,
his locker and they want to be like
他们想
against us because they see how they
反对我们,因为他们看到了他们的
live and they part of it this is where I
生活方式,他们也是其中的一部分,这就是我
started seeing organized corruption
开始看到有组织的腐败
officers selling information to drug
官员向毒贩出售信息,
dealers to organize criminals
组织犯罪分子
stealing from searches do you think
从搜查中窃取信息的地方 你觉得
chasing criminals are like you know
追捕罪犯就像你知道
that's your job every day and focusing
那是你每天的工作,而专注
on what they're doing can actually kind
于他们所做的事情实际上可以
of turn you into one I don't generally
把你变成一个我一般不
believe in the police force people start
相信警察部队的人从一开始
off with a corrupt mindset and money's
就有腐败的心态,金钱
addictive once they start getting that
令人上瘾 一旦他们开始
regular income from corrupt means it's
从腐败中获得固定收入,就
difficult to turn it down did you feel
很难拒绝,你是否觉得
guilty witnessing some of the corruption
目睹一些
that was going on when it was people
当时发生的腐败都是
that didn't deserve it but on the whole
不值得的人所为,但总的来说,
I I didn't really get caught up with it
我并没有真正
with these big units so I've kept my
卷入这些大单位,所以我一直保持
nose out and left it alone years ago the
沉默,几年前就不再管它了。
complaints Unit were there to basically
投诉部门的主要任务是
get rid of the complaint did your
处理投诉,你的
colleagues feel that you were Above the
同事是否觉得你凌驾于法律之上,
Law as police officers the ego gets a
作为警察,
better of you if you could basically do
你的自尊心更强,你是否可以为所欲为,
what you want was it something that the
这是
police force were trying to deal with
警方试图处理的事情吗
they never dealt with him it was swept
他们从来没有处理过他,这件事被
under a carpet and it was civilized as
掩盖了,而且是文明的,
well and then make a joke of it they
然后拿它开玩笑,他们
make light of it why didn't you report
轻描淡写,你为什么不在
this this corruption at the time I I
当时举报这种腐败行为,我
reported corruption
举报了腐败,
uh when it happened
呃,当它发生的
about I was threatened
时候
you know and I lived with the threat for
你知道吗,我受到过威胁,有一段时间我一直生活在这种威胁之中,
a while and it frightened me so when you
这让我很害怕,所以当你
are a Target Forum anything goes they
是一个目标论坛时,什么事都会发生,他们
will send the hounds to rip you apart
会派出猎犬来把你撕碎
and they will not stop there was no
,他们不会停下来,没有
support and you would be ostracized as
支持,你会被排斥
well you would be a grass they have
以及你会是一个草他们已经
damaged my life beyond my power
破坏了我的生活超出了我的权力
whistleblowers within the police are on
告密者在警察
Rarity so what kept you there it's a
Rarity,是什么让你留在那里的?这是一份
fantastic job
很棒的工作,虽然
it didn't end too well for me but it is
结果对我来说不太好,但这是
a fantastic job it really you do make a
一份很棒的工作,你确实给
difference in people's lives you do how
人们的生活带来了改变。
did it make you feel when when you saw
当你看到 Sarah Everard 时,你感觉如何
the Sarah everard case it was it was
情况是令人
shocking to watch there was a massive
震惊的,因为当时有大量的人
waiting straight away alarm Bells would
在等待,警报铃
have been ringing early on there would
早就响了,和他一起工作的
have been an audit Trail people that
人会有一个审计线索,
worked with him he would have had a
reputation of being a bit touchy if I
如果我
don't think it was any surprise to those
不这样做,他会有点敏感 对于那些
that really knew him
真正了解他的人来说,
that he did cross that line this guy
他确实越过了那条线,丹尼斯这个家伙
Dennis prior had twice been caught
之前曾两次被发现
flashing and that was a one thing the
闪现,这是一件事,
moment I saw it out I remember bringing
当我看到它时,我记得带
out my next colleague and saying this
出我的下一个同事并说这个
man is a murderer this he should a
人 是一个杀人犯,他应该
profile of this guy without a doubt
对这个人进行侧写,毫无疑问,
would you say that the majority of
你会说大多数
corruption is the Force's fault I think
腐败都是警察的错,我认为
the employer needs to understand that
雇主需要明白,
when people go into this world they're
当人们来到这个世界上时,他们
going to change and it might not be for
会改变,也可能不会
the good and they need to address that
他们需要解决这个问题,
and stop putting it down to personal
不要再把责任归咎于个人,
liability when there is corruption
因为
shipping institution is to blame it's
航运机构存在腐败 事情已经
kind of got to the stage where either my
到了这样的阶段,要么我
nan
奶奶
is sort of questioning you know she
开始怀疑她
doesn't trust the Metropolitan Police
不信任伦敦警察,
and if it's getting to the stage right
要么
my Nan's not trusting I mean it's
我奶奶不信任伦敦警察,这可以
understandable by why I wouldn't trust
理解,为什么我不相信
the police problems and really until
警察 问题,除非
these root causes are addressed you're
这些根本原因得到解决,否则你
only ever going to be fighting a losing
只会打一场必输的
battle I think the police have totally
仗。我认为警察已经完全
lost their way I'm seeing things in the
迷失了方向。我在媒体上看到一些事情
press and thinking oh this is crazy what
,心想,这太疯狂了,
are they doing mostly officers are dealt
他们在做什么,大多数是警察 处理
with aren't corrupt they're good people
的不是腐败,他们是好人,
they are they are good people they are
他们是好人,他们被
misguided my problem is with rotten
误导了,我的问题是
apples that are in there and how they
那里面有烂苹果,他们是如何
are protected and they are
受到保护的,他们是
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